1 00:00:03,05 --> 00:00:06,79 Good evening and I'll call the city of Camden Fall City Council meeting for Tuesday 2 00:00:06,80 --> 00:00:12,97 August fifth to order roll call. Council member Duncan you're also here Johnson 3 00:00:13,10 --> 00:00:19,77 your Mattson McCusker show bloom and Mayor Robinson all placed after the Pledge of 4 00:00:19,78 --> 00:00:26,77 Allegiance. A pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States 5 00:00:26,78 --> 00:00:33,23 of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible 6 00:00:33,71 --> 00:00:40,52 with liberty and justice for all. Living everyone talking to the 7 00:00:40,53 --> 00:00:45,79 meeting. At this time the chair will take the movie motion to approve the agenda 8 00:00:45,83 --> 00:00:48,28 submitted second of 9 00:00:48,29 --> 00:00:54,00 a motion by my second by Bill all those in favor and I posed 10 00:00:55,28 --> 00:01:01,09 various moves us on to Item five the seating which is public input so this is may 11 00:01:01,10 --> 00:01:05,73 speak to issues not on the agenda before speaking please give your name and address 12 00:01:05,74 --> 00:01:10,12 for the minutes please limit your comments to three minutes is there anyone wishing 13 00:01:10,13 --> 00:01:12,29 to address the council under public input. 14 00:01:19,10 --> 00:01:23,59 Thank you my name is Diane Logue and I live it three one nine two four county 15 00:01:23,60 --> 00:01:29,82 twenty four Boulevard just on the west side of fifty two and I'm here to publicly 16 00:01:29,83 --> 00:01:36,31 go on the record with this body. About the closing of twenty four crossing 17 00:01:36,60 --> 00:01:41,53 and I have talked with different people in the administration and services and they 18 00:01:41,54 --> 00:01:45,75 all have told me they take direction from this body so that's why I'm here and I 19 00:01:45,76 --> 00:01:49,94 know some of you have participated with us with the senators and their 20 00:01:49,95 --> 00:01:56,25 representatives. But I'm feeling like the city is not being really 21 00:01:56,26 --> 00:02:02,73 proactive in kind of being assertive with the state and I base that on my 22 00:02:02,74 --> 00:02:06,35 involvement with the city of savage even though it's in the dinosaur age from 23 00:02:06,36 --> 00:02:12,24 eighty seven to eighty six to ninety seven. I'm just worried if you let them close 24 00:02:12,25 --> 00:02:18,78 it before the study is done that it will never reopen. And I'm asking you to 25 00:02:19,31 --> 00:02:24,31 be assertive and proactive and work with them to reach 26 00:02:24,32 --> 00:02:27,92 a compromise to at least leave it open till the study is finished get 27 00:02:27,93 --> 00:02:32,39 a stay of execution. If you speak you know I have 28 00:02:32,40 --> 00:02:35,27 a business on that side as well as well 29 00:02:35,31 --> 00:02:39,92 a lot of our businesses over there and I'm not sure how would work if they end up 30 00:02:39,93 --> 00:02:43,84 closing it if we would have to pay to reopen it if that's what the study dictates 31 00:02:43,88 --> 00:02:50,01 or that I'm not privy to but I would suggest that if that's the case then let's 32 00:02:50,02 --> 00:02:54,36 just barricade it so you can't cross but leave the right often Ryan's open intil 33 00:02:54,37 --> 00:02:58,55 the decision is made and then if we have to pay to close it maybe that's 34 00:02:58,56 --> 00:03:05,10 a wash and throwing these out is ideas the big crux though for me is fire safety 35 00:03:05,11 --> 00:03:09,10 for us on the west side because God forbid we have 36 00:03:09,11 --> 00:03:15,34 a semi accident that blocks one of the westbound. Roundabouts 37 00:03:15,77 --> 00:03:21,15 and for some reason the big vehicles can't get around and I know the hospital had 38 00:03:21,16 --> 00:03:25,99 to have two access points because of that very thing and also for tourism which I 39 00:03:26,00 --> 00:03:30,71 don't expect in Cannon Falls but. For all those businesses on the west side it 40 00:03:30,72 --> 00:03:32,89 could mean the matter of us surviving or not 41 00:03:32,90 --> 00:03:39,77 a fire and I have animals Dick Peterson has animals the hotel if for some reason 42 00:03:40,07 --> 00:03:44,01 either one of those two western roundabouts happened to have an accident that is 43 00:03:44,02 --> 00:03:50,22 before the French road we're doomed we have no access. And we need access we need 44 00:03:50,23 --> 00:03:55,55 to be taking care of it for that. And I kind of in 45 00:03:55,56 --> 00:03:59,11 a bold statement want to say if it's good enough for the hospital to have two axis 46 00:03:59,12 --> 00:04:03,64 points I think it's good enough for our taxpayers also because we are blessed to 47 00:04:03,65 --> 00:04:06,98 have that beautiful facility but they are a user of services and not 48 00:04:06,99 --> 00:04:11,46 a pair of taxes in our community and we on the west side are the businesses that 49 00:04:11,47 --> 00:04:16,81 are paying a lot of taxes to this community. And I'm afraid it's going to make us 50 00:04:16,82 --> 00:04:18,10 a ghost town from 51 00:04:18,11 --> 00:04:24,51 a business standpoint and if we don't fight and fight hard to keep that going until 52 00:04:24,67 --> 00:04:28,96 till they can prove it's not safe. It's going to it's going to make us 53 00:04:28,97 --> 00:04:33,80 a ghost town and we're we going to replace those businesses in the tech space the 54 00:04:33,81 --> 00:04:38,53 people living in Cannon Falls can't support that kind of tech space if those 55 00:04:38,54 --> 00:04:43,11 businesses continue to go under so thank you for hearing me and I just wanted to be 56 00:04:43,12 --> 00:04:49,12 on public record so that if you feel strongly about it you can direct Brenda chief 57 00:04:49,13 --> 00:04:53,47 McCormick any of the emergency people I've been told they take their direction from 58 00:04:53,48 --> 00:04:58,48 you and how they'll go forward and fight for this so thank you very much did you 59 00:04:58,49 --> 00:05:00,00 grow up the kitchen 60 00:05:00,01 --> 00:05:06,72 a week ago I was gone. Yeah yeah I have been to the other meetings too OK but I 61 00:05:06,73 --> 00:05:11,45 know I know it's I know that if you're not sitting still but I have through prison 62 00:05:11,46 --> 00:05:12,31 and again I know it's 63 00:05:12,32 --> 00:05:18,43 a long time ago but through personal experience. The state will kind of roll over 64 00:05:18,44 --> 00:05:20,08 us as much as will let them in 65 00:05:20,09 --> 00:05:24,03 a certain extent we just needs we need this town to fight for us we need them to 66 00:05:24,04 --> 00:05:30,26 just say hey you know I'm not going to roll over to stone has been proactive honest 67 00:05:30,26 --> 00:05:36,80 . You know far sign each and all this I know but your hands are kind of tight they 68 00:05:36,81 --> 00:05:41,76 have been fighting. I mean if you just only so much you can do your johnson to be 69 00:05:41,77 --> 00:05:43,88 a pain in their side every day be 70 00:05:43,89 --> 00:05:47,63 a pain in their side every day you know I know they have to receive direction from 71 00:05:47,64 --> 00:05:48,90 you and that's I guess in 72 00:05:48,91 --> 00:05:53,15 a way that's what I'm asking is that you just tell him fight every day for us and 73 00:05:53,16 --> 00:05:57,00 so that maybe they'll listen and trust me they have I mean they've been there we've 74 00:05:57,01 --> 00:06:02,56 got we've all been there. Been there you know Representative Kelly. 75 00:06:04,22 --> 00:06:08,02 You know we can so we can get there I mean about the next step is to call the 76 00:06:08,03 --> 00:06:13,29 governor I mean and let's do it I mean and that's something that doing I do want to 77 00:06:13,30 --> 00:06:17,77 look at the fire issues I mean as far as getting there's no way to get you know 78 00:06:17,78 --> 00:06:20,56 when you talk to some I mean you're not the first person that's brought that up to 79 00:06:20,57 --> 00:06:23,08 me somebody else brought that up the other day and I do want to look at that issue 80 00:06:23,09 --> 00:06:28,54 so it's scary Well look at it and see what what we may have to do OK Thank you 81 00:06:28,59 --> 00:06:34,46 thanks. Anyone else that wishes to address the council under public input 82 00:06:36,67 --> 00:06:41,47 seeing as there are none will move on to public hearings at this time we'll go to 83 00:06:41,48 --> 00:06:46,04 Resolution twenty eighty nine certified on paid utility charges to be collected 84 00:06:46,05 --> 00:06:52,95 with taxes and well. Thank you Mayor. You 85 00:06:52,96 --> 00:06:58,99 have in your packets. The information regarding the unpaid utilities for this 86 00:06:59,97 --> 00:07:06,06 latest quarter the. Residents do have an opportunity to address that this evening 87 00:07:06,07 --> 00:07:10,80 if they wish to do so otherwise these will be added to the property taxes for 88 00:07:10,81 --> 00:07:14,88 collection on next year's taxes if they remain unpaid on up 89 00:07:14,89 --> 00:07:19,56 a little bit as in the amounts on this particular list are there while there is 90 00:07:20,14 --> 00:07:25,61 more in just the numbers in general and part of the reason for that is because we 91 00:07:25,62 --> 00:07:25,78 had 92 00:07:25,79 --> 00:07:30,86 a staff member that processes these that was on vacation so she had to put these together 93 00:07:30,90 --> 00:07:33,28 a week earlier than normal so there is 94 00:07:33,29 --> 00:07:37,83 a definite possibility that some payments came in and this could be reduced OK. 95 00:07:40,87 --> 00:07:46,19 This time we will open the public hearing was there anyone wishing to address the 96 00:07:46,20 --> 00:07:50,80 council under the public hearing on the paid utility charges. 97 00:07:54,29 --> 00:07:54,82 C.N.N. 98 00:07:54,83 --> 00:07:59,03 As there is no one wishing to address the chaos of the scene of this we will close 99 00:07:59,04 --> 00:08:03,89 the public hearing at this time and this time I will accept the motion to adopt 100 00:08:03,90 --> 00:08:05,25 resolution twenty eighty nine 101 00:08:05,26 --> 00:08:10,10 a resolution certified on paid utility charges to be collected with taxes. Oh I'll 102 00:08:10,11 --> 00:08:10,93 make that motion 103 00:08:11,41 --> 00:08:18,24 a motion by Bill second second by moral any further discussion is just right thing 104 00:08:18,25 --> 00:08:23,40 when they're all what was what was the DAs last time I thought it was up about five 105 00:08:23,41 --> 00:08:30,38 thousand just I guess that's the writer like me. OK yeah 106 00:08:30,60 --> 00:08:36,90 this sorry I was just kind of wonder why it was. Well as I said the numbers are up 107 00:08:36,91 --> 00:08:42,49 because of the timing issue with the way the payments are processed and so we do 108 00:08:42,50 --> 00:08:46,88 hope that those numbers will go down before the actual certification is sent to the 109 00:08:46,89 --> 00:08:51,06 county and we will process all those payments before that is done so anything that 110 00:08:51,07 --> 00:08:56,41 has come in will definitely be credited in every working from this list you know 111 00:08:56,42 --> 00:09:02,42 the discussion not all those in favor I pose various. 112 00:09:04,48 --> 00:09:09,28 Moves us all into the second item under public hearings which is the second Street 113 00:09:09,33 --> 00:09:12,95 Southwest improvement project. We're going to conduct 114 00:09:12,96 --> 00:09:16,43 a public hearing and then we'll have resolution twenty nine you want to order an 115 00:09:16,44 --> 00:09:19,86 improvement in awarding the bid. And Mr Johnson. 116 00:09:24,05 --> 00:09:28,62 Thank you mayor and council members. What you have in front of you is 117 00:09:28,63 --> 00:09:35,30 a packet of information. Informational memo and have also included the 118 00:09:35,31 --> 00:09:38,49 notice of hearing the mailed notice of hearing of us for 119 00:09:38,50 --> 00:09:43,71 a special assessment for the improvement hearing for tonight. Mr Anderson from 120 00:09:43,72 --> 00:09:45,39 S.C.H. Has included 121 00:09:45,40 --> 00:09:51,21 a letter related to the bid itself the bids were opened on July twenty ninth 122 00:09:52,18 --> 00:09:57,17 and we received two bids and that the low bid was eighty three thousand one seventy 123 00:09:57,18 --> 00:10:04,10 eight and then based on those numbers Gregg put together. A couple of 124 00:10:04,11 --> 00:10:05,63 different scenarios for you for 125 00:10:05,64 --> 00:10:12,14 a potential assessment role one if you look at the assessment roll spreadsheet 126 00:10:12,97 --> 00:10:18,68 he's got one one column towards the second or the third of the right column shows 127 00:10:18,69 --> 00:10:24,44 the assessment per unit and the last one it would be if you went with the front 128 00:10:24,45 --> 00:10:29,94 footage assessment instead and the difference is there now you will notice there 129 00:10:29,95 --> 00:10:30,10 are 130 00:10:30,11 --> 00:10:37,12 a couple of duplicate names. In Darryl McLean and first English they're each 131 00:10:37,16 --> 00:10:41,02 they each have two parcels according to the tax personal I.D.'s that Greg looked 132 00:10:41,03 --> 00:10:47,76 out on out. So what would be in order would be to 133 00:10:47,80 --> 00:10:53,97 conduct the improvement hearing if Council so chooses after 134 00:10:54,37 --> 00:10:59,81 accepting public input. Would be to obviously close the public hearing and then 135 00:11:00,86 --> 00:11:05,57 consider resolution to order the improvement and award the bid to Petunia's 136 00:11:05,57 --> 00:11:12,57 roadways. For the bid come in so high over what we 137 00:11:13,21 --> 00:11:18,68 estimated. You know about my my guess is that we had 138 00:11:18,69 --> 00:11:23,64 a small amount of work to do one block is free and the fact that one of the two 139 00:11:23,65 --> 00:11:28,04 bidders is actually doing all of the energy maybe that's your job some of the other 140 00:11:28,05 --> 00:11:30,54 guys are bidding thinking well he's going to be in talent he'll be 141 00:11:30,83 --> 00:11:36,49 a little bit or Turns out he wasn't hired to bed but. I did talk to 142 00:11:36,55 --> 00:11:40,02 a few of them who were the bidders the bid the three teeth project and they both. 143 00:11:41,51 --> 00:11:45,46 Twenty thirty miles to get up all the balls that is just not enough work for us to 144 00:11:45,47 --> 00:11:48,97 go over there Mr Wood bit in at this time and then also there's 145 00:11:48,98 --> 00:11:55,52 a lot of work going on right now it's doing just one block by block we were very 146 00:11:55,53 --> 00:11:58,58 fortunate with retain it a very good number there it was 147 00:11:58,59 --> 00:12:03,02 a pretty significant quantity but now we're doing just one block of layer of 148 00:12:03,03 --> 00:12:08,67 repairs it's thought. Is there any way that we could come up with another project 149 00:12:08,68 --> 00:12:13,80 or two to see about getting the bid at the same price for two projects I mean I 150 00:12:13,81 --> 00:12:14,54 think that's quite 151 00:12:14,55 --> 00:12:19,24 a bit more than what I had you know based off of what you told me I mean that. 152 00:12:22,19 --> 00:12:26,31 We followed the bidding process and I can answer kind of tied this is the project 153 00:12:26,42 --> 00:12:29,71 it what it all forbids I want to get let me play 154 00:12:29,72 --> 00:12:35,10 a level playing field. This is what we've got you know. We're open with we're going 155 00:12:35,11 --> 00:12:40,68 out of energy number three. I mean why is it just didn't work out what was. 156 00:12:42,79 --> 00:12:48,11 In the water main stream back together and this makes you want to scrap the project 157 00:12:48,44 --> 00:12:49,48 try to get in the spring 158 00:12:55,18 --> 00:13:01,49 and really in that situation really do with the Hill. You know that's where we. 159 00:13:03,29 --> 00:13:03,40 Have 160 00:13:03,41 --> 00:13:10,44 a bad situation right now oh it's just rubble ready even. Though I don't 161 00:13:10,45 --> 00:13:17,35 know. One thing is with the construction going on 162 00:13:17,36 --> 00:13:19,97 now everybody pulls back. 163 00:13:24,47 --> 00:13:31,33 You know see things getting better you. Know we were we were 164 00:13:31,34 --> 00:13:35,91 fortunate son three eighteen the come in under estimate and unfortunately we've 165 00:13:35,92 --> 00:13:42,38 come in over estimate here and you know that adds about maybe three thousand for 166 00:13:42,39 --> 00:13:48,56 the eight affected residents to the cost of the project on the streets got to get 167 00:13:48,57 --> 00:13:54,77 done you know thinking that good road in the past well I know what you just can't 168 00:13:54,78 --> 00:14:00,95 have that there. Any other discussion 169 00:14:02,83 --> 00:14:07,75 anybody else wishing to address the council but under public your own. 170 00:14:14,97 --> 00:14:21,72 Weight. I am president of the council at first things church and president of 171 00:14:22,12 --> 00:14:26,59 the property committee and we're under the the assumption that we will not be 172 00:14:26,60 --> 00:14:31,51 assessed for this project as I stated in the paper being it's been done less than 173 00:14:31,52 --> 00:14:36,01 twenty years less than twenty years ago and. 174 00:14:38,24 --> 00:14:39,34 We thought that was 175 00:14:39,35 --> 00:14:45,86 a rule that you can't be assessed twice as your answer that question. Yes 176 00:14:46,76 --> 00:14:52,26 and I was going to point that out earlier but. The our code calls for 177 00:14:52,27 --> 00:14:59,11 a replacement on streets of St surfacing of fifteen years so after fifteen 178 00:14:59,12 --> 00:15:05,83 years we can we can assess or you can assess the variation of that as with curb and 179 00:15:05,84 --> 00:15:07,24 gutter curb and gutter has 180 00:15:07,25 --> 00:15:14,00 a twenty year. Life span going to our code in the 181 00:15:14,01 --> 00:15:16,84 code then states that there would be one nine hundred twenty S. 182 00:15:16,85 --> 00:15:22,27 Of the cars he pro-rated out wherever you're at in that twenty year term so that's 183 00:15:22,28 --> 00:15:26,17 what the assessment roll would would look like there be one nine hundred twenty S. 184 00:15:26,18 --> 00:15:29,83 Of the curve in gutter but one hundred percent of the street. 185 00:15:34,11 --> 00:15:38,59 The question is why was the street tore up other than we know the water going as 186 00:15:38,60 --> 00:15:45,51 bad. And the water main was buried too shallow had that not 187 00:15:45,52 --> 00:15:52,52 been done incorrectly or not up to the accepted practices in ninety five when 188 00:15:52,53 --> 00:15:58,96 we had to tear the street up yet. So in other words in the street got damaged and 189 00:15:58,97 --> 00:16:04,93 has to be replaced because we've done in ninety five 190 00:16:06,60 --> 00:16:06,89 we have 191 00:16:06,90 --> 00:16:14,19 a ground stand that. Other than sander no. I 192 00:16:14,20 --> 00:16:17,91 don't think still in the problem your water he was in the middle of the street we 193 00:16:17,92 --> 00:16:22,94 could see it out with the other water with great metal it would be no sense to try 194 00:16:22,95 --> 00:16:28,88 to imagine the middle of the street as far as I think it's night by night why we 195 00:16:28,89 --> 00:16:35,83 are where we are and you talk about current god or are you going 196 00:16:35,84 --> 00:16:38,86 to remove the curtain daughter because that or because it hasn't been removed 197 00:16:39,14 --> 00:16:45,60 Worley going to replace the pieces that are missing. So that's according to whoever 198 00:16:45,61 --> 00:16:51,94 owns that section of the property that needs to be replaced when we get the final 199 00:16:51,95 --> 00:16:56,07 quantities I'll sit down with raw to make sure we're following the cord on that I'm 200 00:16:56,08 --> 00:17:00,65 not exactly sure how to proceed. One nine hundred twenty S. 201 00:17:00,66 --> 00:17:04,99 It will for the curb gutter cost and everyone Sure and it also will depend on the. 202 00:17:06,04 --> 00:17:12,89 Method. You know. Everyone. At the front what that might be. 203 00:17:14,54 --> 00:17:20,67 But the curb and gutter that's right now will be replaced we don't dissipate now 204 00:17:20,68 --> 00:17:27,41 any more and in the. Water as it as it is right 205 00:17:27,42 --> 00:17:32,80 now I don't think you touched her or know your sidewalk Oh. 206 00:17:34,57 --> 00:17:41,02 Well the sidewalk before her. All the other small sections. That. 207 00:17:42,72 --> 00:17:49,01 Lead that. I guess. 208 00:17:51,53 --> 00:17:57,41 Everyone. Here that I might also point out that I don't doesn't that doesn't help 209 00:17:57,41 --> 00:18:02,23 you with the street costs I know it doesn't but. This is the second part of 210 00:18:02,23 --> 00:18:08,73 a project that's the water main of course has been installed and now portion of 211 00:18:08,74 --> 00:18:13,76 that council opted not to assess directly to the benefitting property owners but 212 00:18:13,77 --> 00:18:17,10 will be ultimately included in. Probably 213 00:18:17,11 --> 00:18:22,99 a either taken out of water fund reserves are included in another project. For the 214 00:18:22,100 --> 00:18:27,66 whole tax base so the cost of putting in the new water main will not be 215 00:18:27,67 --> 00:18:31,24 a part of ours that's not going to be part of the assessment Council agreed to that 216 00:18:31,25 --> 00:18:37,35 earlier right. Thank you and that cost was 217 00:18:37,95 --> 00:18:42,87 approximately sixty five thousand plus or minus 218 00:18:44,96 --> 00:18:48,99 and. Yeah. Thank you. 219 00:18:57,48 --> 00:19:03,09 Could you please what I needed to do sign in by them sorter OK Thank you. I've run 220 00:19:03,10 --> 00:19:08,74 what the UP what's the deal on face plant out to me. I'm 221 00:19:08,75 --> 00:19:15,60 a claim to being assessed twice in first English you know SAS twice. The the 222 00:19:15,61 --> 00:19:21,06 water the water was done on what I don't know what street that is but I know 223 00:19:21,07 --> 00:19:27,09 Maclean's face well Street or salt and sort of see over one of their first English 224 00:19:27,09 --> 00:19:33,95 . Yeah the assessment that the role that Greg put together was for just seconds 225 00:19:34,01 --> 00:19:40,41 just the abutting properties. For the street footage and he did the two different 226 00:19:40,59 --> 00:19:46,94 methodologies one was the per unit the other was per lineal foot and 227 00:19:47,32 --> 00:19:53,84 McLean missed the McLean property has two parcels showing up on the parcel Idema 228 00:19:55,10 --> 00:20:01,38 that abut on Second Street south west and then first English has two parcels 229 00:20:01,100 --> 00:20:07,58 so what you alternately both have to parcel your parcels are split. 230 00:20:08,80 --> 00:20:12,73 East and West are correct there's. 231 00:20:15,84 --> 00:20:20,99 And what that you know ultimately when we have prior to when we set the final 232 00:20:21,00 --> 00:20:25,04 improvement hearing or final assessment hearing you know we'll need to know 233 00:20:25,05 --> 00:20:31,23 a staff how you want to determine how did how to do the assessments whether it's on 234 00:20:31,24 --> 00:20:36,72 a unit basis or when you go for it. I don't need that answer tonight 235 00:20:40,36 --> 00:20:46,34 or any further discussion anyone else wishing to address the Council on the three 236 00:20:46,35 --> 00:20:53,20 hundred eighteen three on site history Southwest improvement project. I have seen 237 00:20:53,21 --> 00:20:59,16 there is none we will close the public hearing at this time and the chair will take 238 00:20:59,17 --> 00:21:03,83 a motion to adopt the resolution ordering the second Street Southwest street 239 00:21:03,84 --> 00:21:05,62 improvement project and in 240 00:21:05,63 --> 00:21:11,96 a word in the bid to buy menace roadways. With the lowest possible bit of eighty 241 00:21:11,97 --> 00:21:18,04 three thousand nine hundred seventy eight dollars. I will make that motion of 242 00:21:18,05 --> 00:21:19,36 thinking of 243 00:21:19,37 --> 00:21:25,99 a motion by Bill so I could buy Merrill all in favor I suppose. 244 00:21:28,46 --> 00:21:35,08 Very. Moves on to the consent of genda items on the sorry the genda may be 245 00:21:35,09 --> 00:21:38,58 adopted or they may be removed and placed on the business area of the agenda for 246 00:21:38,59 --> 00:21:42,85 discussion purposes before proving for the folks at home all read the consent 247 00:21:42,86 --> 00:21:44,68 agenda item A is 248 00:21:44,69 --> 00:21:48,03 a just and correct claims for accounting period and in August first two thousand 249 00:21:48,04 --> 00:21:49,90 and fourteen item B. 250 00:21:49,91 --> 00:21:52,93 Of the meeting minutes for the July fifteenth two thousand and fourteen city 251 00:21:52,94 --> 00:21:57,81 council meeting item C resolution twenty nine he authorized an acceptance of 252 00:21:57,82 --> 00:22:01,17 monetary donation for the fire department Item D. 253 00:22:01,18 --> 00:22:03,72 Administrative clarification for the third can 254 00:22:03,73 --> 00:22:07,19 a street improvement project item E.D.S. 255 00:22:07,23 --> 00:22:10,88 Sign retroflex to any policy item F. 256 00:22:11,23 --> 00:22:17,03 Promotes. Junior to full time E.M.F. Supervisor item G.E. 257 00:22:17,04 --> 00:22:20,69 Resolution Twenty nine hundred two deny employment area plat for mole hill phase 258 00:22:20,70 --> 00:22:26,76 two. Item each quit claim deed for nybble property I don't mind 259 00:22:26,77 --> 00:22:28,98 a liquor license violation and call for 260 00:22:28,99 --> 00:22:34,18 a public hearing these sold in Mexico I don't J A want to or 261 00:22:34,19 --> 00:22:36,64 a liquor license item K. 262 00:22:36,65 --> 00:22:41,58 Hiring of Tony Han for full time public works minus one item L. 263 00:22:41,59 --> 00:22:46,74 Hiring of Trevor Sullivan for full time police officer item application for payment 264 00:22:46,75 --> 00:22:48,50 one from S.M. 265 00:22:48,51 --> 00:22:53,15 Hanna just for second Street Southwest water main improvements are there any items 266 00:22:53,28 --> 00:22:56,60 anyone wishes to bring down I will be bringing down items seven F. 267 00:22:59,13 --> 00:23:00,65 That will be one. 268 00:23:09,14 --> 00:23:12,08 If no one else wishes to bring anything down make 269 00:23:12,09 --> 00:23:18,69 a motion to approve the consent of general minus Item seven. Second 270 00:23:19,19 --> 00:23:26,10 motion by Merrill second by Bill all in favor by those 271 00:23:27,67 --> 00:23:29,89 areas and I was the counsel business item 272 00:23:29,90 --> 00:23:35,26 a day is the promotion of civil kero one basically the only thing I do have their 273 00:23:35,27 --> 00:23:41,21 on that is we need to approve the date. Of hire two July the twenty ninth instead 274 00:23:41,22 --> 00:23:44,43 of August the six for the promotion. 275 00:23:51,47 --> 00:23:57,45 For Council of the memory at the seven fifteen council meeting 276 00:23:58,44 --> 00:24:00,22 Brenda was given direction to hire 277 00:24:00,85 --> 00:24:07,67 a full time or hire for this position and it and so she did the employees 278 00:24:07,68 --> 00:24:11,99 started on July twenty ninth this is formalizing thought so it's in the minutes 279 00:24:12,03 --> 00:24:18,82 that we have hired Mr Kira. And. Then 280 00:24:19,33 --> 00:24:24,74 chair take a motion to a prove the motion of civil kero Jr to full time him 281 00:24:24,75 --> 00:24:29,23 a supervisor is voted affected above but the effect that they will be July the 282 00:24:29,24 --> 00:24:33,91 twenty ninth and I will second the motion by Merrill second by Bill. 283 00:24:36,00 --> 00:24:42,93 All in favor right both. Kerry says. The moves us all 284 00:24:42,94 --> 00:24:45,04 tied of nine ports. 285 00:24:53,96 --> 00:24:57,100 You got off I don't know what I'm going to do I think I have is that the Planning 286 00:24:58,01 --> 00:25:01,87 Commission meeting for this coming Monday night will be postponed to September 287 00:25:01,88 --> 00:25:06,68 eighth the regular Monday meeting in September so I am. 288 00:25:09,57 --> 00:25:16,44 Not running. I just have one 289 00:25:16,45 --> 00:25:21,75 thing. Tomorrow I'll be acting in my capacity again as 290 00:25:21,77 --> 00:25:28,76 a member of the E.M.'s honor guard to serve at the funeral for UPS 291 00:25:28,77 --> 00:25:35,61 or Scott Patrick and when I do that I also like to take that opportunity to 292 00:25:35,62 --> 00:25:42,22 thank the members of my staff will cover me so that I can act in that capacity 293 00:25:43,90 --> 00:25:48,68 and I also like to remember to thank the local V.F.W. 294 00:25:48,72 --> 00:25:53,17 Who was instrumental in first providing me with 295 00:25:54,30 --> 00:26:01,09 a uniform to begin that service with the. Honor Guard 296 00:26:02,52 --> 00:26:08,27 and I think the city for giving me the opportunity to serve with that organization 297 00:26:08,27 --> 00:26:09,96 as well it is 298 00:26:11,07 --> 00:26:16,07 a very meaningful one to me so I thank you for that. 299 00:26:19,01 --> 00:26:20,63 Tom just 300 00:26:20,64 --> 00:26:24,68 a reminder tomorrow and Thursday we'll be updating the troll even playground 301 00:26:24,69 --> 00:26:29,80 equipment been fortunate the last three or four years to get some grants that were 302 00:26:29,81 --> 00:26:35,28 forty five to fifty percent grounds. That we have replaced which just came out of 303 00:26:35,29 --> 00:26:40,73 the park that occasion so that's all we do on the ark will be tore up for 304 00:26:40,74 --> 00:26:46,19 a few days to or gets better but just one you know. No 305 00:26:47,90 --> 00:26:54,89 thanks. If. Just so that people are aware we've gotten through most of 306 00:26:54,90 --> 00:26:59,63 our community events for the year however we will have 307 00:27:00,19 --> 00:27:05,51 a dedication for the Veterans Memorial this weekend and there will be some parking 308 00:27:05,52 --> 00:27:10,97 and Street closing disruptions associated with that for just general traffic. But 309 00:27:11,01 --> 00:27:14,79 it should be very minimal as far as the impact part of Mill Street will be closed 310 00:27:15,26 --> 00:27:21,18 we're going to close part of the parking lot at two rivers so that bleachers can be 311 00:27:21,19 --> 00:27:26,15 set up for the event that will happen tomorrow in that will be closed that section 312 00:27:26,16 --> 00:27:31,91 of it will be closed until the date of cation and then as Brenda alluded to sadly 313 00:27:31,92 --> 00:27:38,15 tomorrow will be the funeral for Madonna Heights Officer Scott Patrick. Want the 314 00:27:38,31 --> 00:27:42,59 council to be aware myself and Officer Edwin center will be attending 315 00:27:43,28 --> 00:27:47,49 a couple of other officers had indicated their desire to go but we still have duty 316 00:27:47,50 --> 00:27:53,78 to our citizens here so they will be working. We also are sending two of our 317 00:27:53,79 --> 00:28:00,66 reserves. Jake Young Mark and Roy to get will be going up to assist with 318 00:28:00,67 --> 00:28:06,29 the. Road closings and any details that they may have for that they would all 319 00:28:06,30 --> 00:28:09,88 request for assistance and we were honored to be able to answer their request 320 00:28:10,66 --> 00:28:16,95 that's all I have. Like you say on that speck that our condolences go out to 321 00:28:17,88 --> 00:28:21,49 his family and to the city. It's 322 00:28:21,50 --> 00:28:25,86 a sad situation I want to hope that here in kind of all's we never have to deal 323 00:28:25,87 --> 00:28:32,47 with but we give them our full support and backing of and by helping them out this 324 00:28:32,48 --> 00:28:34,49 way it's. I think it's 325 00:28:34,50 --> 00:28:37,65 a great asset to be able to do that I know they've helped us out in the past when 326 00:28:37,73 --> 00:28:39,86 the president came stuff so I mean it's just 327 00:28:39,87 --> 00:28:46,80 a sad situation that. We're behind and not going to all of those 328 00:28:46,81 --> 00:28:53,65 are out and his family and and the all of law enforcement throughout the state I 329 00:28:53,66 --> 00:28:57,41 appreciate that Mr Mayor. The chief there is 330 00:28:57,42 --> 00:29:02,02 a friend of mine I mailed him that next morning and told him I didn't need to hear 331 00:29:02,03 --> 00:29:05,88 back but he did reply I know I will probably not have 332 00:29:05,89 --> 00:29:09,61 a chance to see him tomorrow but when I see him in the few trucks or consuls 333 00:29:09,85 --> 00:29:14,63 thoughts and yours thank you thank you I will do the same with their administrator 334 00:29:14,64 --> 00:29:19,51 I did contact him the next day also and said if I said unfortunately I've had 335 00:29:19,52 --> 00:29:26,12 experience in this area and if he needs any help let me know. And. 336 00:29:27,56 --> 00:29:33,55 I know. I think I think. I have some 337 00:29:34,55 --> 00:29:40,86 concerns have been expressed to me. In our local canoe rental place on the weekends 338 00:29:40,87 --> 00:29:42,58 it gets very busy and 339 00:29:42,59 --> 00:29:47,72 a lot of people parking on the streets and around that bridge is there anything we 340 00:29:47,73 --> 00:29:53,28 can do to help the. Safety factor around there. 341 00:29:55,84 --> 00:30:00,84 The. Biggest problem I see is that because of its location. 342 00:30:03,88 --> 00:30:08,29 You know the parking there would be available be on the other side of the river on 343 00:30:08,30 --> 00:30:15,26 the weekends that has also been. Prime usage for people that are not with 344 00:30:15,27 --> 00:30:19,72 that one but with the other can do service. As well as people that are utilizing 345 00:30:19,73 --> 00:30:26,57 the parks on the trails. We don't have full control over because it's 346 00:30:26,58 --> 00:30:32,25 a state highway but we could you know have some conversations with them and to see 347 00:30:32,26 --> 00:30:35,91 if there's some things that we could do initially we were seeing 348 00:30:35,92 --> 00:30:41,89 a significant amount of cars parking on. River Road so much to the so that we ended 349 00:30:41,90 --> 00:30:47,02 up restricting one side parking there because it was making it hard for our 350 00:30:47,13 --> 00:30:52,50 emergency vehicles to get in and out. But you know we could we could look at some 351 00:30:52,56 --> 00:30:58,94 some options one of the things that you know I come to mind would be. If the canoe 352 00:30:58,95 --> 00:31:02,32 places is that busy. You know trying to find 353 00:31:02,33 --> 00:31:06,03 a place that they could offer shuttles from I mean they're already picking the 354 00:31:06,04 --> 00:31:11,76 people up and taking them maybe they could you know PARK PARK offsite and you know 355 00:31:11,77 --> 00:31:15,19 be able to bring them in with their or their bus or their van we could have 356 00:31:15,20 --> 00:31:17,99 a conversation with them to see what we could come up with this is some 357 00:31:18,00 --> 00:31:24,94 alternatives All right thank you. You know. The one 358 00:31:24,95 --> 00:31:29,87 thing without it that was brought out possible for I don't know all our gold but we 359 00:31:29,88 --> 00:31:36,59 talked about. To look into the possibility of parking on the grass here by 360 00:31:36,60 --> 00:31:43,42 river road would help at all. Talk to. Plaistow near bike 361 00:31:43,46 --> 00:31:49,81 rental place to see if anything like that would you know so. I do. 362 00:31:50,93 --> 00:31:55,69 I do know that launches one thing you know really bothers me because they are right 363 00:31:55,70 --> 00:32:02,59 on the main highway they're very big. Size and without me now. We have 364 00:32:02,63 --> 00:32:06,83 talked about trying to do something to help with that to give them 365 00:32:06,84 --> 00:32:12,69 a different lot Yury you know then. I think this is an issue that. 366 00:32:15,09 --> 00:32:15,52 To talk 367 00:32:15,56 --> 00:32:21,12 a little bit more and I do like the shuttle thing. Is some kind of shuttle shuttle 368 00:32:21,13 --> 00:32:28,05 service from your old party. Herself so. I do I think it's 369 00:32:28,14 --> 00:32:33,45 good you don't rough it up because. It's really nice to see how easy it is but it 370 00:32:33,46 --> 00:32:39,35 also. I would have to do some checking I don't think would be 371 00:32:39,82 --> 00:32:46,52 a good policy for us to utilize our parking space for vehicles. And I'm not sure 372 00:32:47,29 --> 00:32:51,95 what property this the city has adjacent to live station on the other side of river 373 00:32:51,95 --> 00:32:57,24 road. But you know I think Rick we're open to to exploring any options that would 374 00:32:57,25 --> 00:33:03,88 work. The only other thing Rob You us is want to bring up to the 375 00:33:03,89 --> 00:33:09,26 cops well that. I was asked to come out to the media in 376 00:33:09,27 --> 00:33:11,98 a country that you know last week with 377 00:33:11,99 --> 00:33:17,41 a match we had out there and business people and I wanted to bring this up tonight 378 00:33:17,58 --> 00:33:20,94 because the gal I talked out there I thought it was 379 00:33:20,95 --> 00:33:26,95 a real good. Man to kind of push the buttons and see what we could do. 380 00:33:29,53 --> 00:33:33,89 They would definitely like the right hand turn lane but they don't like the blended 381 00:33:33,90 --> 00:33:40,64 lanes. And. I think everything points to be true 382 00:33:41,02 --> 00:33:45,02 if we could get to your right hand turn leads. Really be 383 00:33:45,03 --> 00:33:50,57 a great thing you know the coming back where that's going to go the only thing I 384 00:33:50,58 --> 00:33:54,58 will say that they talked about there that day and I thought was really an 385 00:33:54,59 --> 00:33:56,97 important thing is we do have 386 00:33:56,98 --> 00:34:03,24 a cul de sac that's proposed on the end of Syracuse and instead of that kind back 387 00:34:03,25 --> 00:34:07,87 in the twenty four the way it is now also you could look right around there you 388 00:34:07,88 --> 00:34:09,04 didn't feel that there was 389 00:34:09,05 --> 00:34:15,18 a real safety issue as far as police ambulance fire. He also brought up the fact 390 00:34:15,83 --> 00:34:21,45 that new role bills dollars from the super merit go hi way out there no you know is 391 00:34:21,46 --> 00:34:27,77 very busy right now. Or likely going to get worse once everything comes our way. 392 00:34:29,87 --> 00:34:31,77 You bring up the fact that if we did have 393 00:34:31,78 --> 00:34:38,78 a fire please call you know we have the right hand turn lane good luck to 394 00:34:38,86 --> 00:34:44,73 the overpass there take the writing and drawing lead be right up as you are told in 395 00:34:44,74 --> 00:34:49,81 that area. Of the room those were brought up and. 396 00:34:52,13 --> 00:34:52,85 And still be 397 00:34:52,86 --> 00:34:58,91 a portion of the study we're having. A traffic study that we have to do to take the 398 00:34:58,92 --> 00:35:05,20 next Yeah I believe that they will be don't you all are right there somebody. 399 00:35:07,16 --> 00:35:13,80 Who we are those who are still pushing. Things go on you 400 00:35:14,07 --> 00:35:18,81 know what we're dealing with here is going to. Be everybody has forty. 401 00:35:23,66 --> 00:35:27,11 Fourth Oh Tom has so it's 402 00:35:27,12 --> 00:35:34,10 a been told to speed done. Kind of road seventeen I know it's the county in 403 00:35:34,11 --> 00:35:39,09 all this could stall we discussed the deal with. Some homeowners association 404 00:35:39,38 --> 00:35:41,43 residents around could be 405 00:35:41,44 --> 00:35:47,76 a county study that have to be done and as Greg and I advise it might not be to our 406 00:35:47,77 --> 00:35:54,75 favor you know I mean I'd hate to see forty five coming in further in the town I 407 00:35:54,76 --> 00:35:56,75 think just the fact that it's a rural setting 408 00:35:56,76 --> 00:35:59,89 a road I think people just feels like they do on one thousand that you know once 409 00:35:59,90 --> 00:36:05,47 they see the cornfields and grass are off to the races and I don't know. 410 00:36:06,88 --> 00:36:11,57 What although what the county would do if they would drop that thirty and have 411 00:36:11,58 --> 00:36:16,74 a ball further to Sunflower court. Or if you just replicate the situation you have 412 00:36:17,66 --> 00:36:24,20 where everybody still comes in at sixty miles an hour regardless so so that's 413 00:36:24,21 --> 00:36:30,50 a big issue no shoulders out there and no. Believe trails I mean you know. 414 00:36:32,40 --> 00:36:39,23 That for three years you know. There's something should be done you know and we'd 415 00:36:39,24 --> 00:36:45,96 all do the county and all about it no need. To talk to the county as far as 416 00:36:45,97 --> 00:36:51,25 a speed study or our I know we we've had conversations in the past with them on. 417 00:36:53,62 --> 00:37:00,19 The trail you know extension. And those are not very positive and their 418 00:37:00,27 --> 00:37:06,89 desire to do that. As far as the study I don't think so you know we have done 419 00:37:07,58 --> 00:37:13,78 some directed patrols in that area. And. I 420 00:37:13,79 --> 00:37:17,38 recall. And last time was probably 421 00:37:17,39 --> 00:37:21,66 a year or so ago but I don't think we ended up with that many say Taishan. Out of 422 00:37:21,67 --> 00:37:27,64 that. You know the biggest the biggest problem is Tom alluded to you know Mendez 423 00:37:27,65 --> 00:37:31,41 philosophy and that sort of gets adopted down through you know counties and 424 00:37:31,42 --> 00:37:35,11 engineer engineers for cities is that people will drive to what they feel is 425 00:37:35,12 --> 00:37:38,18 appropriate. And because it's such 426 00:37:38,19 --> 00:37:42,10 a barren stretch. Even though it's got 427 00:37:42,11 --> 00:37:48,85 a lot of residential around it it's not right. And so people perceive it as you 428 00:37:48,86 --> 00:37:54,71 know not having that same risk factors I would I would say. But you know it 429 00:37:54,72 --> 00:37:59,19 definitely you know I know Tom's expressed it I've expressed it I think you know 430 00:37:59,20 --> 00:38:02,51 Aaron previously had expressed it to the to the county I'm doing something out 431 00:38:02,52 --> 00:38:08,85 there to try to connect them into you know the the other part of the city so we 432 00:38:08,90 --> 00:38:12,32 reduce that likelihood of cars make seen there are 433 00:38:12,33 --> 00:38:17,62 a lot of young students out there I mean young kids up there that you know there's 434 00:38:17,63 --> 00:38:22,60 a lot of families and out you know and they're sort of isolated from the rest of 435 00:38:22,61 --> 00:38:26,66 our city services so to speak because of that lack of the trail system along that 436 00:38:26,67 --> 00:38:33,07 county road and I think it probably primarily came down to cost 437 00:38:33,62 --> 00:38:37,13 is you know I'm sure the homeowners don't want to pay for the county didn't want to 438 00:38:37,14 --> 00:38:43,89 pay for it and shift it to us if we want to do it when check on that though I 439 00:38:43,90 --> 00:38:50,60 mean see what they might want to do with the parts of speech and stuff. Just to see 440 00:38:50,61 --> 00:38:52,42 if we can get something done at least to slow him down 441 00:38:52,43 --> 00:38:58,28 a little bit coming into that stretch you get cars pulling out of there and young 442 00:38:58,29 --> 00:38:59,13 kids might be riding 443 00:38:59,14 --> 00:39:07,02 a bike up that way and we don't need any fatalities out there. That 444 00:39:07,03 --> 00:39:12,93 we did like Tom was mentioning we did discuss if public works this afternoon and. A 445 00:39:13,22 --> 00:39:18,39 couple years ago we talked about possible trails along seventeen and just slightly 446 00:39:18,40 --> 00:39:25,21 off and coming up the. Cannibal of Swan But it was 447 00:39:25,95 --> 00:39:31,57 cost prohibitive because those in the developments out there did not want to 448 00:39:31,58 --> 00:39:38,12 participate but. It was tough for the city to do it and as everybody knows you 449 00:39:38,13 --> 00:39:44,21 drive out there as you go up the the hill out that way you've got steep slopes on 450 00:39:44,22 --> 00:39:50,27 either side is very difficult to build up to get a wide enough area to to have 451 00:39:50,28 --> 00:39:57,05 a trailer or whatever but. And it is tough. For the kids coming 452 00:39:57,06 --> 00:40:01,87 down and that includes my own. So it's it's 453 00:40:01,88 --> 00:40:08,60 a dangerous thing but there's no easy solution what else can I think 454 00:40:08,81 --> 00:40:15,20 if not I'm actually there is one other item that I'd like to mention tonight the 455 00:40:16,13 --> 00:40:21,75 filings for city council are open they close next Tuesday August twelfth at five 456 00:40:21,76 --> 00:40:26,31 o'clock we have the offices of mayor and two council members for 457 00:40:26,32 --> 00:40:28,35 a four year term and one council member for 458 00:40:28,36 --> 00:40:35,25 a two to your term that will be on the ballot. In any 459 00:40:35,73 --> 00:40:39,58 thing else. Like a motion to adjourn so they can.